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たところで | Even If It's Pointless in Japanese

Even if; no use doing; it won't help to

N3た form + ところで + negative or futile result

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N3Japanese Grammar

Even if; no use doing; it won't help to

Formation:た form + ところで + negative or futile result

Even If You Did, It Wouldn't Help

たところで concedes an action and then says it would achieve nothing. The speaker has already decided it is futile.

  • 急(いそ)いだところで間(ま)に合(あ)わない。(Even if we hurry, we won't make it.)

Three Hard Rules

  1. It attaches to the た form, but it is not past. 急(いそ)いだところで refers to the future.
  2. The second clause must be negative or futile — ない, 無駄(むだ)だ, 変(か)わらない.
  3. The speaker treats the outcome as already settled, not as a live possibility.

Against たとえ〜ても

Pattern Outcome
たとえ〜ても can be positive or negative
たところで always futile

たとえ失敗(しっぱい)しても続(つづ)ける works. 失敗(しっぱい)したところで続(つづ)ける does not — the pattern demands a dead end.

Often With いくら or 今さら

  • 今(いま)さら謝(あやま)ったところで遅(おそ)い。(Apologising now won't help.)

Example Sentences

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  1. 急(いそ)いだところで間(ま)に合(あ)わないでしょう。

    Even if we hurry, we won't make it.

  2. 今(いま)さら謝(あやま)ったところで遅(おそ)すぎる。

    It's too late to apologise now.

  3. 文句(もんく)を言(い)ったところで何(なに)も変(か)わらない。

    Complaining won't change anything.

  4. いくら頼(たの)んだところで無駄(むだ)です。

    However much you ask, it's pointless.

  5. 調(しら)べたところで答(こた)えは見(み)つからない。

    Even if you look it up, you won't find the answer.

  6. 走(はし)ったところで終電(しゅうでん)には乗(の)れない。

    Even running, I won't catch the last train.

  7. 心配(しんぱい)したところで結果(けっか)は同(おな)じだ。

    Worrying won't change the outcome.

  8. 説明(せつめい)したところで信(しん)じてもらえないだろう。

    Even if I explain, they probably won't believe me.

Quiz Time

たところで | Even If It's Pointless in Japanese

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